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Electronic Music tutorial: live shows, the j-chot way.
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Written October 03 2010
I almost Religiously follow this one rule that xanopticon gave me after a particularly crushing failure I had as a promoter:
1.THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS AT THE END OF THE NIGHT IS WHAT CAME OUT OF YOUR SPEAKERS, AND WHAT THE AUDIENCE SAW.
(NEVER ADMIT A MISTAKE)
****WHAT?****
( your live set should be an adaptation of your produced tracks to a live environment. DON'T COMPROMISE YOUR MUSIC QUALITY FOR "real" or "improvisational" quality.) KEY WORD: COMPROMISE
***WHY?***
- you must find a happy medium between composition and improvisation. a MUSICIAN (keyboardist, saxaphonist, whatever) can sometimes work ENTIRELY in an improvisational manner, however, if you're a composer/producer, this simply won't work in a practical manner without years of prep and careful practice. even then, it might not be apparent or appreciated. Few if any people will realize the difference. oh, they'll realize that you're making it up as you go, if that's what you're doing completely, but rarely does it make a difference to the quality of performance. experimentation is fun, but most experiments are failures BUT none the less, oppertunities to learn and explore. this tends to reflect poorly on a stage. certain niche audiences (in portland for example) will appreciate live experimentation, but most don't. TRUST ME. I've tried both. ALOT.
2. IT'S NOT WORTH IT UNLESS YOU AND/OR THE AUDIENCE IS HAVING FUN. (both occurs at the BEST live shows)
-GIVE THEM A LITTLE SHOW. that's partially what they're there for. not alot. just enough. you don't need strippers and pyrotechnics. a screen onstage with some weird visuals might help. costumes are FUN!. wear silly glasses. bright pants. do something other than smoke smugly behind a laptop. hell, if you look like you're having a blast, you might not need any of that.
what I did personally was break down all my tracks into 3 or 4 key elements : rhythmic sounds, harmonic sounds, atonal/atmospheric sounds and vocal sounds. Then, I would basically mix, match fade, loop, crossfade, switch and manipulate combinations of these elements. Ableton is WONDERFULLY condusive for creative arrangement. so I basically ran 2 sets of 4 tracks (4 elements per song) and arranged them from slowest to fastest for the most fluid performance. this is alot easier than it sounds.
I basically made it difficult for me to fuck it up.
if I decided to aggressively remix a song on the fly, I could do that on a whim. the same if I decided to dance or act stupid while the track played out in it's entireity , or ape around while tweaking a delay, filter, or glitchy vst.
Hell, one time, half my set was a total fake peformance because my monitor went out. ( tweaking a dummy knob while a filter sweep occured, hit a useless button when a particular sound came in or changed. And when I wasn't doing that, I just plain acted like a possesed maniac) but I was drunk as hell and I remembered which buttons on the midi controller made the next songset play, so the show went on without stopping, or obviously troubleshooting, so THE SHOW WENT ON!
( LOOK LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING.)
the really funny part about that was that my friends and peers and wife told me that was the best performance I ever did. I had a blast and the audience was captivated. only my friend jason and my wife realized I was faking. I had started out doing a dance set, and the daftpunk college fags had shuffled out mid-performance, (they had class the next day, chattanooga is a college town) I look up from what I'm doing at the audience maybe 3 times during an hour and a half set, and I noticed the audience had gone from 50 to 15 half way through, so I said fuck it, I'm gonna play my hardcore and have a blast. what I DIDN"T realise, was that during the course of me seemingly loosing my mind, a couple metal heads from the adjacent dive bar (part of the building) had wandered in and said HOLY CRAP, LOOK AT THAT GUY then went and got their friends bein' all like, "check this out!" .
I had no idea this was going on, so here's what I saw: look up before I start,
50 or so 18 to 20 year old hipsters.
look up 40 min in, 15 or so people
....then the thunderbird really kicked in and I did the spaz thing and was COMPLETELY oblivious to anything.
So much to my shock, when I finished and the lights came on, (exhausting 2 hour set) I was staring face to face with 60 or so drunken, ugly, old, young metal heads and bikers with their jaws on the floor, suddenly bursting into shouts and applause.
It was the single most personally/artistically gratifying thing I've ever done, completely unintentional.
so what did I learn?
1. don't play last when your audience has a bedtime.
2. even if you're playing music they don't particularly care about, if you are giving it your all and it looks like it, and if your fun rubs off on the audience (that sounded inappropriate)
people can still like or even love your performance.
3.thunderbird is a party in a bottle.
4. even people fairly or very experienced in electronic music production will hardly notice if you cheat. (within reasonable boundries)
5. showmanship IS REALLY IMPORTANT. present yourself how the audience might be the most receptive to, of course while staying true to your self and what you're comfortable doing. (I did this accidentally, but doofgoblin is REALLY fucking good at this)
so focus on creative arangement, rather than trying to do something you don't currently have the skillset for if you're a producer not a musician....and make it look good, act like you always ment to do it.
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10/03/10
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infradead
thunderbird is indeed a party in a bottle.
10/04/10
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mulletballet
a good read, less than a week before my first ever live show -- thx!
Oct 04*
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cartesia
I agree with rule #1.. after my first DJ set at a decently sized party everyone said it was great but I just kept going on about how crap I was.. both in terms of mixing and stage presence.. man it feels weird trying to appear really into it and active when you're up there all alone.. like not just standing there involved in the process
the next morning I just wished I could go back and play up what people were saying rather than have continually shot myself in the face...
It's ridiculous how much people don't notice when theyre on the other side of the PA.. even other DJs unless they're purposely watching you for fuckups.. I guess it's good to be critical of yourself, but the rule is right... dont let anyone else know about it if theyre saying something different
10/05/10
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chrisallen
Ya, theres a lot to be said about a good live set, with me it always seems like a lot of work preparing a set. I think people overall appreciate it when you bring out some hardware as problematic as that might be just to kind of see the real hardware in action - I dunno maby at least for the fanboy factor.
Oct 05*
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djugel
Don't be a nerd with your milk n toast.... also don't be a phony like Girl Talk for example.
Somewhere in between.
DONT SIT DOWN...
10/06/10
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j_chot
djugel said: "Don't be a nerd with your milk n toast.... also don't be a phony like Girl Talk for example.
Somewhere in between.
DONT SIT DOWN..."
definitely
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korgborglar
are you kidding me, i saw girl talk and he was rocking two laptops entirely live................. with one folded up and used as a mousepad.
but seriously, coming out of a set where you played alright talking about "how awful the set went" comes off exactly like your girlfriend saying she looks fat.
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djugel
I dunno ... my last disaster set was with the band Prince Rama. I got some weird MIDI loop/freeze issue (damn Akai AX-60!!)and things got more fucked up than ever... like where you simply HAVE to stop. Kept happening, so I eventually just played the most important parts that I barely remembered all by hand.
Went OK I guess. Prince Rama liked it... I just told them " I usually don't swear that much on stage". The cute girl drummer in the band just said "that's cool, I'm swearing all the time"
10/06/10
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hecanjog
I've never understood the 'pretending' thing - nobody cares if you dj your tracks, just own it! I would love to see more idm/dance/techno type shows that just embraced the playback of studio tracks the producer worked a long time to get down perfectly. Why pretend to be "playing" this stuff? Hit play, crank it up and go dance in the audience or something...
10/07/10
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delete
i like it when there's subtle interaction between artist and audience, not constant though because it gets boring after a while (don't start a conversation...). subtle interaction is key methinks. one of my favorite ways to do that is pauses. like in films, a pause in the sound can be a very powerful element. i usually stop at one or two points during the liveset (don't do this too abruptly!) and just stare at the people. it's my way of asking "shall i keep playing?". i was very nervous the first time i did it because i didn't know what would happen, but usually the audience wants a chance to express what they think about what they're hearing as much as the performer wants the audience to make some noise 
10/07/10
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j_chot
hecanjog said: "I've never understood the 'pretending' thing - nobody cares if you dj your tracks, just own it! I would love to see more idm/dance/techno type shows that just embraced the playback of studio tracks the producer worked a long time to get down perfectly. Why pretend to be "playing" this stuff? Hit play, crank it up and go dance in the audience or something..."
because that's boring
10/08/10
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madeofoak
yeah, i agree that generally an audience expects to see a performance of some kind. my sets right now are a weird in-between of djing and performing - each track is broken up into smaller parts so i can rearrange or loop them on the fly as well as add elements from other songs when i feel like it. to make a more interactive experience i've made a (reasonably sized) effects chain on the master fader (beat repeats, EQs, bit crusher, etc) as well as a number of sends (to a kt granulator & a guitar pedal chain) so i can be constantly tweaking with my midi controller. also i tend to dance (who doesn't get stoked when they hear their own beats on a huge PA?)
at the end of the day it's about what's coming out of the speakers, but i think it helps in a live environment if the audience has some kind of visual relationship to what they're hearing.
10/08/10
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ignatius
the j_show way!
i would follow your rules if i cared (or if i ever played live anymore) but i have to admit.. if there is a chair there i tend to sit down for part of the time (bad back - i'm old) and feel good about it. but it depends on what i'm playing.
10/09/10
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ignatius said: "if there is a chair there i tend to sit down for part of the time (bad back - i'm old) and feel good about it. but it depends on what i'm playing."
i've seen philip jeck playing sitting down and it was really intense and captivating. i've seen aphex twin playing sitting down and it was boring.
10/09/10
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ignatius
delete said: " ignatius said: "if there is a chair there i tend to sit down for part of the time (bad back - i'm old) and feel good about it. but it depends on what i'm playing."
i've seen philip jeck playing sitting down and it was really intense and captivating. i've seen aphex twin playing sitting down and it was boring."
i think a lot of it is environment and expectations.
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