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Electronic Music discussion: Ableton Live Question
Store Written September 23 2011  
Hi folks,
Forgive the intrusion of such a practical question, but I sense the Ableton forums are actually not very helpful after some searches.
Ableton, unlike other DAWs, seems to insist on maintaining the same latency for hardware MIDI synths as plugins. I think they refer to this as Playthrough. And as far as I can tell, the rationale of this is to minimize jitter and keep the whole package in the same time frame. However, for actually making music, the latency is horrible on real systems (keeping buffer size reasonable).
Is there a way to eliminate this imposed latency of midi hardware synths?
Specifically. . . I activate record on a midi track. Hit a note on the midi controller. The latency on the hardware synth is say. . . 25ms.
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are we talking midi or audio latency?
i'm assuming midi.
midi latency. . . i understand the audio of course. the issue is ableton seems to always want to impose midi latency to "match" the audio latency. this is fine for a few aplications but for most is simply unnecessary.
yeah i guess i should have figured that.

does adjusting the track's latency do anything?
you can set the midi sync latency to a negative value, this wont magically remove latency but will allow external things to be properly sync'd.

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whoa celibacyclub. if that fickzez it, i am inn-debitted to you. i'll give it a shot. fyi: i'm not concerned so much about sync as simple midi messages (note on, note off). but perhaps this will work nonetheless! i'm stunned it is not in any documentation.
ableton live is a godsend for stuff like this
i thought anything over 12ms was audibly discernable...i always aimed for a latency of < 6-8...
Okay, tried celibacyclub's suggestion. Did not affect or improve midi hardware latency, which seems to mach the audio latency.
I think the solution is simply lower buffer size, which of course comes at some cost. Back to hackn' away!


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