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StoreTags: mnml, machinedrum, liveset
Author: daswesen on January 04 2008
--> second try at a liveset, this time in "real" conditions, machinedrum and nord micromodular, no computah involved. Much more striaghtforward and in my bouncy style as the other try. This is about 10 patterns, there's quite a lot of mistakes, first time I go through this (especially at the end). I have around 150 patterns in stock, so I think I'm quite prepared for a whole night set

I want critical feedback, very critical feedback, blow me to shreds. Focus is the dancefloor! Some people told me I move through the patterns too fast, however I think for me this is the perfect pace. What do you think?

I learnt a lot doing all this, I will blog about it once I'm feeling I have the thing down.
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01/04/08 +  zfigz
listening...quite the dance mix. I'd like same amount of hihat but, more melodic elements/instruments. Make the kick a bit less ommpfff for some of the tracks. It seems a lot of the melodic elements take the form of percussion...maybe lay off some of the percussive elements and let your melodic instruments harmonize with one another occasionally.

I really do love some of the moments which arise . . . the groove is oh so groovy usually. I think there's plenty of room to play with some harmony surrounded in groovy goodness.

How long is this anyhoo?
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01/04/08 +  j_chot
supurb. saved.

go for it. any advice I would have for this would possibly/probably encroach on your creative style: umm reverb? maybe dist in places? eccho.
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01/04/08 +  j_chot
maybe some more disonance/dirt.
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01/05/08 +  lysdexic
brilliant. all sequenced in the machinedrum?

if you were in my country i would book you for a set..

only criticism is as above.. needs a little more dirt in places, and a little reverb in others.
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01/05/08 +  daswesen
thx people! yes this is all on the machinedrum. It's all a bit dry I know, cause at the moment I have only the machinedrum verb (kind of weird) and delay to work with. The machinedrum distortion is a bit weird as well, I can't really get to use it to good effect. Someday in the future I'll get a good external fx unit, at the moment that's kind of what I'm stuck with (hopefully I'll be able to use the kaosspad for stuff like that, not just for weird slicing woozah fx).

relistening to this mix, I will focus more on bringing elements in and out more smoothly (most importantly "hook" elements like basslines or weird percussion patterns), at the moment it's more of a mute/unmute approach. stay tunedz!
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01/05/08 +  daswesen
zfigz: i have a lot more "dubby" harmonic patterns, the ones above are kind of "middle" ground, i got a good bunch of almost toneless patterns as well. One obvious problem I have is that I can only sequence 2 bars in a row (don't want to loop multiple bars on the MD, that is too troublesome for now), which leads to "obvious" melodic lines, which are very cool when they go shifting against the beat over a few bars, a bit too dulling (at least for me). That's definitely something I will do though when I go back to the putah! Everything will be easier when going back to the putah.
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01/05/08 +  audiobulb
yeah its good

i'm not sure more reverb is what i'd go go - i'd worry about the punch being taken out

you do progress your patterns quite quick - but maybe thats your style - it prevents it becoming a mong trance piece i guess
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01/05/08 +  daswesen
Heh, my natural feeling is to change the patterns that quick, and I've already worked on making it last longer, but I will try to do it bit less hectic still, focusing more on tweaking one sound. I have to keep tweaking though, I'm a tweaker.
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01/05/08 +  soft
im posting this here so that this release appears in 'myposts' and i remember to listen to it when i have my headphones back from my mates gaff
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01/06/08 +  drewzle
daswesen - do you limit the loops to 2 bars so there aren't 'patterns within patterns' of differing lengths?

also, with 150 potential patterns, how do you remember which are in the right musical key? do you have some way of grouping them?

i really like the set and the movement within it, feels alive and dynamic.

01/06/08 +  daswesen
drewzle: sadly, no i limit to 2 bars cause each pttern on the machinedrum is 2 bars. Sometimes (not in the mp3 i posted) I have polyrythms (simle mostly, like 3 against 2) using the nord. Also some basslines with longer polyrhythms on the filter sweep, butmostly it's 2 bars cause that's easiest to handle (I'm not really convinced of the midi sync with the nord when doing longer patterns). As for key, that's easy, cause it's either atonal, or C minor Also I can't really overlap patterns that much, I can resample one and bring it over to the next, but not really bring over single elements. ALl those parallel minor chords, that's cause I loaded up 2 samples of a minor chord on the machinedrum, and that's all I worked with (RAM is precious on that thing, especially if you use resampling).
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01/06/08 +  daswesen
Also for organizing/remembering the patterns, basically I have made some cheatsheets where it says for each pattern: the general feel (like, atonal hypnotic, melodic funky, dubby, heavy electro), which track has what kind of sound (bd, snare, offbeat hihat, straight hihat, percussion, bleeps, bass, pad, melody, voice), and also different combinations of tracks that give different feels while still being a good foundation (like, this bd + bass + perc: funky, while bd + offbeat hh + pad: chill). Then as I'm practicing I'm starting to see how different patterns can go really well together, especially for moving from no swing to swing or vice versa.

What I think I will either build myself is a small midi looper inside the nord (ont he hardware hack I posted the other day) that will loop the midi out of the machinedrum on its own, or try to see if I can manage to resample the nord on the MD without too much trouble (cause that makes it one additional audio source patching to worry about live, which is always dangerous with all the possible feedback issues and stuff).
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01/06/08 +  drewzle
that's really interesting man, i appreciate you sharing your technique

lately i've been setting up mini live sets in Bhajis Loops, trying to have a broad range of patterns and sounds on hand to drop in. i figure i'll keep each 'set' in one key, though maybe have some Sections earmarked for key-changes

01/06/08 +  atum
your picture is the devil . tell it to stop telling me i should do bad things. your track is great

01/10/08 +  soft
This is wicked good!!! I'm kind a jealous actually. hahah

I have trouble keeping it simple/minimal.... always end up adding loads of layers.

Can not wait to hear this live!! see you on the dancefloor ;)
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