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04/12/08
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jarvis
it dawned on me today that our dear mr. james has a discography spanning over 20 years. that does a few things for me:
*makes me feel old
*impresses me
*makes me glad that much of that work still sounds fresh
*makes me wonder where it'll lead to
the thought interested me because so many of our EM influences have died over the last few years and i don't feel like there are many contemporaries that i personally feel influenced by. what are our musical successors going to be influenced by in 20 years? will it even matter by then?
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04/14/08
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djugel
he kinda sucks...
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sAMsKi
awwww - kid606 knows how to rock a party a fuck load more than most laptop gazers. a bit sloppy yes, but MUCH better live than most of the people listed here - IMHO.
04/14/08
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taint
kid 606 is spectacular you fools and he's been around since before you knew how to download a crack for acid pro
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nagrom
I spent 4 years trying to like Kid606. I like some of his early tracks. "Kidrush". Neo-cyberpunk.
But he kinda sucks...
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sweettrip
kid606 is good live, yeah. that's a good show............
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sAMsKi
aye aye! when he opened MOOG FEST : a 9 day/night (!!) electronic music festival, organised by my friends in Nottingham...he was fucking mental. Such a great start to 9 mad days! He was just so excited and ripped the place up. People crowd surfing / chucking stuff around / dancing on tables etc. At one point he chucked his beer glass into the crowd...then stopped the show for a few seconds to apologise 
I have seen him since in a bigger venue, supporting Flat Earth Society and Fantomas and he struggled a bit more in that context I thought...but at moog fest he was the most full on exciting act of the whole 9 days...and there was a lot of full on and exciting shit! And...yeah, i did go to all nine days/nights in full. I got legend status from my friend Alan who organised it...and i even had a t-shirt printed for the last night saying ' What the fuck am i going to do tomorrow night?'............blah.
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djugel
Here's some context. This thread is about aphex twin and "what makes him so special". His music sort of promotes a certain "anti-intellectualism" and yet is purist/elitist... where as Kid 606 is trashy remixes and the laptop craze of 2003. Peacock feathers don't impress me... but nice tigerstripes do.
too much coffee today..
basically I hate breakcore and it should never be spoken of in the same converstation as aphex.
04/14/08
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astroid
i have been trying to copy aphex, autechre, venetian snares, squarepusher, and fennesz for the past couple of years. it makes me happy that i'm behind the curve by like 5 years in this respect, because then i'm at least the slightest bit embarrassed by doing it. it's a valuable endeavor, but certainly won't directly lead to anything of value.
case in point
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quip
sam i reckon what i meant was
(cue rant)
That all those media land people jump on something and say "well aphex represents that kind of music" so he gets alot of praise in the media for what he did in terms pushing music forward, whilst early on it was a few others doing that same thing. REALLY going against the grain as to what was happening. Certainly Aphex picked the ball up running so to speak, but he wasn't the only one. Black Dog has been mentioned here, and I would add LFO to that too. Listen to their early albums and they have not aged badly at all. Unlike the early R&S Aphex stuff.
BUT all the true players that stayed up north NOW, AE (actually they moved south) and LFO that were making bleeps whilst richard was still djin don't get the credit they deserve. They aren't as media savvy and they are out of the loop when it comes to getting the props they derserve.
Richard has lived in london for frickin ages too dude. he lived in cornwall a long time ago, and i think moved back there pretty recently but is londoncentric as is Squarepusher, Ceephax, Mike P, Vibert. et al.
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Roshi
I wish people would break the bounds set by the IDM pioneers more. They are good, but there's a world of sound beyond them.
A lot of artists are just not as iconoclastic/original. But they can be if they experiment and play around, rather than worry about fitting a template.
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jarvis
a part of me wonders if it has to do with the internet. i could come on here the day i make a song and get 30 people's opinion on it. is the ease of communication and data sharing diluting everything?
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Roshi
I personally think people become too dependent on other people's opinions in this day and age when they make art.
Just because peeps on em411 like it or you saw a girl dance to it doesn't mean it's good. I think it can be a bad feedback loop to be in, because you will always be constrained by the current opinion.
The best advice about music comes from yourself.
04/14/08
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Roshi
Uh, in other words, I agree with Jarvis.
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ricemutt
yeah roshi, spot on.
For me, finding aphex was realizing that music could be about all these sounds and things that I didn't hear in normal pop music, and it was really exciting. After I found his stuff I went and explored a lot of other different kinds of music, and I still like all that electronica but there are so many other worlds out there. I think there are a lot of electronic music conventions that are really limiting and even kind of annoying after a while... things that only hold up when they're done very well, and sound awful when they're done half-assed, like in most of the stuff I hear. Not that I spend much time looking though.
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monkvolcano
astroid said: "i have been trying to copy aphex, autechre, venetian snares, squarepusher, and fennesz"
you've been trying to copy a shampoo?
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